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When does Dipper and others see him or himself as no different from Bill Cipher? How many times does Dipper get those “not so different” moments that it horrifies him? And if Bill was alive, what does he have to say on that matter? Gloating and mocking Dipper on that fact?

In the beginning, this really haunted Dipper in particular. His form changed, his capabilities changed, his own inner thoughts and instincts shifted and that on top of everything else is terrifying. Suddenly he wore suits, because nothing else felt right. Some part of him hated this, hated the little bowtie and hat and triangular cufflinks because it wasn’t Dipper, it was Bill, and that was wrong.

Sometimes his mouth seemed to run away from him. He’d greet his sister with an overly-exuberant “Hey Shooting Star!” and not quite realize he hadn’t actually called her by name until he caught the look on her face. He’d want to make deals for things he would have done freely before. He’d want to twist those deals to get as much as he could while giving as little – or at least as cruelly – as possible. He hungered for things he never had before, and it scared him.

He got better at handling this with time. He changed some things and adjusted to others. Eventually he came to own the sorts of things he would say and do and want as part of who he was, because instinct or no, he was in control of them. He was not Bill Cipher. He never was, and he never would be, because he had something the demon lacked – he had a basis in and therefore a greater value for humanity, family, and friendship, and this is how he chose to define himself at the core.

So what quirks and mannerisms that Dipper has are originally from Bill, or developed by his newfound demon nature or simply ones he’s had or adapted over the years?

His taste in relatively formal attire, for one thing – the hat and bowtie and occasional cane – and perhaps a little bit of his preferred color schemes therein, with the black and gold. He initially used a triangle motif in his buttons and cufflinks by instinct, but soon managed a small rebellion by shifting his instinctual preference to stars. 

Sometimes little terms or phrases come out of his mouth that seem to echo statements of Bill’s – an occasional tendency to refer to Mabel as “Shooting Star” (and others in turn as their circle symbols), statements to the effect of him knowing “lots of things,” a certain degree of general theatricality (though made his own with Stan’s instruction)…

He inherited his object form from Bill and falls into it when low on energy, but prefers a more human visage as another small act of rebellion against the powers and instincts that were forced upon him.

As for things he’s developed over the years, much of it is making these initial instincts and tendencies and preferences his own, little changes and shifts and adjustments.

Alcor’s family as Disney characters

Had this really bizarre idea of there being a whole bunch of “Alcor’s precious people as Disney characters” movies and to Dipper’s surprise, many of them end up being accurate to the way he actually views the people involved. Like Mizar is his sisterly protectorate who ends up with The Woodsman and Gliese is his niece/godchild. There’s even one at one point where a character based on Toby follows a similar path to Toby himself: viewed as a threat at first by Alcor, then tentatively placed under Alcor’s care after he realizes how helpless the kid is, then “touch this kid and you die!” and finally performs a Heroic Sacrifice (that in the movie, doesn’t stick) to save Mizar, the closest thing the character has to a sister.

Dipper isn’t sure whether he should freak out or break into tears of joy that they finally got it right.

Might get around to writing these at some point but anyone else who likes this concept feel free to come up with your own ideas. Would love to see what others come up with.

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Day 7 of

The Days of TAU Christmas

The first day – The previous day – Eventual link to the next day

This day on Ao3

Not my greatest work, but eh.

“Ah, Mister Pines, it’s been a while.”

“Indeed it has, Miss Roswell. A couple of
years, I think?” Dipper smiled as he reached out and shook the hand of Maddie’s
homeroom teacher. He liked her. She was young, but very good at her job. Not
too cosy with the students to teach effectively, and still friendly enough to
let each student feel like they were heard.

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I was thinking about Drift AU, and started wondering if maybe, once Alcor’s reputation starts to grow and he starts getting linked to the Transcendence, Mabel and the others begin to suspect/believe Alcor was the cause of Dipper’s death (as well as, or instead of, Bill).

On one hand, good thought and excellent point.

On the other hand you have somehow brought even more pain into Drift AU so I’m going to have to ask you to sit in the pear wiggler.

I was thinking, since it’s been mentioned that it’s incredibly rare for new demons to come into existence, would a possible reason that Bill reincarnated as a human was simply because there weren’t any new demons to reincarnate into by the time he had to rejoin the reincarnation cycle?

Technically he didn’t have to rejoin once his soul reformed – there’s nothing that forces souls into rebirth – but it’s possible that the rarity of a demon birth may have factored into the plans he chose to make. Ultimately he was after the kind of power that Alcor achieved as a human turned demon, power that could grow greater in time than a demon born as such, and so he sought to re-create that.