Tag: worldbuilding

What do historians think of Mabel’s connection to Alcor, and in turn, his connection to the transcendence? I feel like that wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) have gone unnoticed, unless Dipper ate that idea.

The Alcor connection to the Transcendence is pretty clear: the Transcendence happened, and then pretty soon after this dude named Alcor starts popping up. Fallers are pretty good about establishing that it was Bill that caused the near-apocalypse, and not Dipper; something that’s helped as magical texts and information become more disseminated/widely known/actually accepted as time goes on.

I think Mabel and Dipper are careful enough that the vast majority of people link Mabel to Mizar. Mabel and Dipper when they’re local try and take care to disguise Mabel’s face to some extent (a face mask, magic that blurs her face, et cetera.) When they’re further afield, it helps that they’re in places that lets be real, no one is going to have any idea what a Mabel is.

Perhaps some people make a connection between Mabel and Mizar, perhaps not (I’ll let this be squishy canon- let us know what y’all think!) but if we are talking the larger span of history, Mabel is probably mostly forgotten in context of Mizar theorizing. Perhaps occasionally a particularly determined researcher will produce evidence that Mabel Anna Pines was in fact, The First Mizar, but they aren’t taken seriously.

So in religion and myth there are a lot of fallen angels is there anything similar in TAU

Nope. At least, not in the same way.

Angels are angels, and demons are demons, regardless of what they do, or how their power changes.

The closest to “falling” for an angel would probably be to die (which is just as rare as demons dying), or to be banished (which is that weird almost-death where the creature in question is forced back into the dreamscape, and their power is sapped to near infant level).

Angels, in this world, can have nefarious plots and do evil/sinful things. They just usually don’t, because praise and worship give them power. Their interests more often align with human interests, but not because they want to be charitable. So in that sense, Angels aren’t very “good” to begin with.

It would be interesting to see “fallen angel” being a title to a powerful angel who was once banished, and rose back up the ranks to once again dominate a position of power.

Werewolf headcannon! What if the condition is transferred by bite because humans tend to store most of their magical energy in their mouths (like using spoken words to summon stuff, casting spells, ect) and some in their hands (willows fire, summoning circles, runes) and when turned into wolf, biting turns people and scratching also turns people but with less prominent effects (more human, smaller wolf, weaker bite) and the change in magic is a result of the full moon messing with their magic.

referring back to this post! 

Do vampires/werewolves have the same soul of when they were human or does the transformation affect it? By the way I love this fandom thanks for making it

Same soul! These transformations are primarily physical, despite whatever conventional superstition says about vampires and their lack of souls. That’s just propaganda and a misunderstanding of certain side effects. Your soul is your soul.

Now, if anything might leave a mark on it – a change or an alteration or just any sort of effect – it’s the radically different life experiences such a transformation might give said soul. Major experiences can sort of seep down into the deeper layer, the core of the soul, though this depends very much on the individual both in life and between lives. A person could have been a werewolf in a past life and yet their soul could show no signs; another might carry personality traits fostered by this time, whatever those might be (and they’ll probably be extremely subtle and indirect at that).

ever wonder if someone somewhere tried to figure out why alcor seems to have sheep? like a scientist or something? and is wondering if he likes to chew on them like gum or something? i dunno where i’m going with this, the idea popped into my head after my team’s reinhardt shouted what sounded like “DEMON MUTTON!” into the mic an hour ago. it was probably actually ‘button’ given he’s been complaining about his controls sticking, but i heard mutton, so yeah… I’m WAY of topic and rambling now…

There are entire dissertations that go into the symbolic meaning of sheep, the potential latent magical qualities embedded in mortal sheep, weird books of poetry.

In unrelated news, the sheep industry gets a major bump after the transcendence.

what about a two dimensional representation of a regular icosahedron with the symbols placed on it’s faces instead of a circle? or does that only work on the nerdiest of demons?

Well, another school of thought might be that any fully enclosed shape is inherently protective or at least clearly delineates an ‘inside’ versus an ‘outside,’ therefore separating space. Any fully enclosed shape that is comprised of a single line/drawn without lifting your marking utensil from the surface you draw across is especially effective.

In short, there’s definitely room for geometry to at least enhance a circle. Whether you can fully replace one, however…doubtless at least some have tried, though any variance in their successes might or might not be put down to other elements.

so like theoretically, does a summoning circle have to be a circle? so long as literally everything else is the same, does the shape matter?

uovoc:

transcendence-au:

Nope! However, the circle is one of those things it needs to be complete and work at full capacity (it’s also the first line of defense for the summoner, so choosing not to draw it is dangerous).

A sloppy oval would work, just not as well. A complete lack of a circle could still work, but has a high chance of failure.

When it comes to craft, the most important thing is the symbol of the demon you wish to summon. A talented summoner may be able to manage with just that symbol and nothing else; but again, it has a high chance of failure, and it offers no protection.

But above all else, intent is what matters the most. This is why sometimes, a demon can be summoned with only a powerful will and a call of the demon’s name – spoken, or thought. But since a demon can outright refuse that summons when there’s a lack of their symbol, chances are they won’t answer (they have to use their own energy to manifest, which is cumbersome)… or they’ll answer simply because they know anyone stupid enough to summon them this way has no way to defend themselves. They could even devour the soul of the one who called them without a contract. Just depends on how lazy, or how hungry the demon is.

This is why summoners always take great care in crafting their complete summoning circles.

A circle creates a space for an entity to inhabit, while simultaneously limiting its movement within that space. Analogous spaces include pocket dimensions, time loops, and worlds.

The purpose of a circle, then, is to create a temporary world for the entity to stay in. Early circles more closely resembled maps. Drawing in natural borders such as rivers and mountains was usually effective at keeping entities contained. However, escapes were common because as everyone knows, there is always more world beyond the edges of a map. 

Clearly a better model was needed. The answer came from advances in the field of astronomy.  The circular circle we know today is based on the concept of “planet:” perfectly round, entirely self-contained, and easy to draw with a piece of string. As a synonym for world, it is the most effective version to date.

In God Alcor’s recreated universe, does the history kind of follow the history of the previous universe, or are things completely different?

Completely different, at least in theory and intent. We kept humankind and most animals and mythical beings the same because coming up with a whole other divergent evolution is a little overwhelming, though there’s always room there for leeway if you really want to add some heffelumps and woozles as common beasties. Otherwise, though, it’s a different world history and set of cultures, with different continents and countries and languages and religions and everything, though humans being humans, some tendencies will still shine through as points of familiarity. In whatever languages they’re using, they probably call their planet “the world” or some variant of it, so if you write a story and they call their home ‘Earth’ it’s no biggie; just skin it as a translation of sorts to English.

So, yeah, feel free to borrow ideas and concepts from the previous universe so we’re not just drifting lost in a totally alien space, but keep in mind that there’s specifically no USA, no Oregon, no Gravity Falls waiting for twins to come and foil a demon’s plot and whatnot.

After all, where’s the fun in an ever-repeating, inescapable time loop of events? It seems like a terrible fate to trap a universe in.